Which novel you ask? That bestseller? My novel? Well, in some ways that’s a general question, but today it’s personal, and my monthly post for Insecure Writer’s Support Group day – and my weekly post combined.
As November approached, I was wondering if reaching the NaNoWriMo winning tape was possible, and how I would managed to keep blogging. But now, 70,186 words later and a ‘Winner’, my worry/insecurity is different.
I haven’t finished this re-write of the first draft [Draft 1 Mark 2] of “Fates Maelstrom”, and, looking at where I am in relation to Draft 1 Mark I, there are another 32,000 words to write. Maybe more if I play out my new crazed idea and kill another character.
A crime novel with over 100,000 words, in a highly competitive market, felt wrong. Surely, Agatha Christie had been able to tackle far cleverer mysteries in less words.
It didn’t take me long to find truth in that fear. Agatha Christie’s novels range from 54,000 to 70,000. And looking at two more recent authors that I admire, Ellis Peters and Dick Francis, their books are shorter than some of the current writers that I read, like Linwood Barclay.
But then I looked at Famous Novels and saw the huge range, well-illustrated in word count order, from small gems to mammoth tomes, in this article, and in alphabetical order here.
However, my novel has to fit in with the norm, and current publishing requirements – even if I self-publish, somehow. I began to feel better when I found out that in the genre of ‘Mysteries and Crime Fiction’, the suggested figures are: Cozies 60,000-70,000; all others 80,000-100,000.
For those of you that want more detail, I found the following figures in posts by various people, including Jacqui Murray – Word Count by Genre. The posts also tackle all the key genres. For crime, the figures are:
- cozy mysteries = 65k to 90k
- mysteries, thrillers and crime fiction = A newer category of light paranormal mysteries and hobby mysteries clock in at about 75k to 90k. Historical mysteries and noir can be a bit shorter, at 80k to 100k. Most other mystery/thriller/crime fiction falls right around the 90k to 100k mark.
That gives me some leeway, at this stage, as I sense my mystery is veering away from a ‘cozy’, although it isn’t going to be an action-driven thriller.
Last stop on the research bus was Writers Workshop, and a post by Harry Bingham, a crime novelist and founder of the WW. (I’m slightly apprehensive now, as Harry has written a successful crime series, featuring a strange young female Welsh detective, Fiona Griffiths. And my series features a strange young female Welsh detective, Sparkle Anwyl. Uffern gwaedlyd – the bar has been raised.)
Anyway, Harry Bingham says, “Crime novels usually run a bit longer than women’s fiction, so although 75,000 words is fine as a lower limit, anything up to 130,000 words is pretty standard. Don’t go below 75,000 though.”
His post, not only looks at other genres, but also has links on what to do if your novel is too long. I will be using those suggestions come revision time – even just to remove the weasel words and the padding.
By any of the above measures, my debut novel “Spiral of Hooves” fell just inside the lower limit, coming in at 75,400 words. “Fates Maelstrom” may be nearer the upper end, around 90,000.
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Novels can range from all different lengths but usually their not over 100,000. That’s a big book! Most editors would suggest cutting it down. Around 90,000 makes a nice size book though. 🙂 Good luck with your rewrite!
I’m aiming for just below the 90k – thanks Chrys.
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Ah, word counts… yes, the bane of my existence really. Well, if you want to think of it one way, you’ll always be shorter than my epic fantasy novels.
Oh, and I tend to obsess and look up numbers too. This link makes me feel better about my epic fantasies.
Great link, Loni. And your suggestion that I think that always shorter than your fantasy… well that makes me wonder if there is room for epic mysteries?
I’m also very worried about my word count, since my novel is around 120.000 (though none of the rejections I had so far mentioned the word count).
Thanks for the links. I’ll check them out 🙂
Depends so much on (a) genre and (b) the way the novel reads. I can get stuck by a short uninspring book, yet swept along by a mammoth piece of magic.
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Congratulations on the finish and I hope you end up with a product that suits some publisher somewhere. I enjoy a long book if it’s a good book. Sometimes I’m so into a story that I wish it would just keep on going on for another 100 pages or so.
I hope all turns out well for you.
Tossing It Out
Thanks Arlee. Will try to balance length with quality. Pausing to ensure new plotline works.
See? That’s why I don’t worry about word count. I’m on the low end and I know it, but so far so good.
Hi Alex, I’m reassured to know that you are at the low end (like my debut was). Beginning to realize that a novel is like a bit of string…